Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Live Leak succumbs to threats, then Rallies for Free Speech

Succumbs to threats? Yes, internet video site Live Leak's employees and their families lives and well being were threatened last week, and in response Live leak pulled the Geert Wilders short film 'Fitna. In 17 minutes or so, Fitna attempts to wake the viewer up to the threat that radical Islam poses to the Western Societies by chronicling many many of the acts of barbarism, violence and intimidation by those who claim to act in Islams name.
Acts of terrorism, murder, and incitement to hatred are interspersed with quotes from the Koran that appear to support them.

Small wonder that Live Leak was threatened.

Little Green Footballs posted what looks like part of of a press release from Live leak:

On the 28th of March LiveLeak.com was left with no other choice but to remove the film “fitna” from our servers following serious threats to our staff and their families. Since that time we have worked constantly on upgrading all security measures thus offering better protection for our staff and families. With these measures in place we have decided to once more make this video live on our site. We will not be pressured into censoring material which is legal and within our rules. We apologise for the removal and the delay in getting it back, but when you run a website you don’t consider that some people would be insecure enough to threaten our lives simply because they do not like the content of a video we neither produced nor endorsed but merely hosted.

After reading the post on Little Green Footballs I tried to find Fitna on the Live Leak site, but found only a place-holder claiming that Geert Wilder himself has pulled the video and will be reposting it following some editing. If you want to see the video, goto the Little Green Footballs link, or click on the picture.

Is it hate speech? I don't believe so. There's no narration. Just video and audio of horrible things that have been said and have actually happened. If it's hate speech, it's only because of the hateful things the people in the video are saying in support of Islam. CAIR must be shitting their pants trying to snuff this one.

I don't say this lightly. I am constitutionally inclined to support freedom of religion. My family and culture benefited from it when the English conquered Quebec and chose not to assimilate the French Catholics out of existence. I am a member of the Knights of Columbus, who proudly promoted freedom of religion in the United States during the dark years of the anti-Catholic Know-Nothings and Nativist's movements of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. But...

But I have a problem extending the gift of the freedom of religion to any cult that would deny freedom of religion to others. That principle is also why I don't believe in allowing Communists to participate in democracy, and why I oppose Socialist Monopolies like the Canadian Wheat Board. One time I was in a heated discussion with a Muslim member of a gaming club I belong to, and he kept falling back on outrage and anger. He left when I cribbed a quote from blogger Jack Rich, saying that I'll be more accepting of Islam when it's as easy and safe to open a New Synagogue in Mecca or Tehran as it is to open a new Mosque in Rome or New York.

Every one should see this video. Especially all those lame so-called moderate Muslim apologists the western media keeps digging up to tell us Islam is a religion of peace.


d said...

1. People from you clan do read your blog.
2. Everyone is an apologist before they read/watch/learn the history. I have had many friends that were Bleed out level liberals(nothing wrong with that) until they read the history.
3. You mention the safety of opening up a synagogue in Iran. I agree with this statement, you only have to do a quick google search of my religion and see all the pain and suffering was inflicted on it by muslims not 350 years ago + all of todays news.
4. Freedom of speech is underthreat and if we don't stand guard we will lose it.
5. I actually got to see Fitna, and nothing in it is "worse" than anything found in a google search or read through of a World section in any newspaper.
6. Please keep up the blog.

Hamm172 said...

I'll add this: I really think the guy I was arguing with is a good person, who is sincere in his beliefs. He came back afterwards to tell me there is a Synagogue in Tehran, and had documented it's continued existence for me. I really appreciated that.
It is a long-established Jewish Synagogue. It does not however disarm my argument, for I wonder what would happen if someone tried to open a new one?

Hamm172 said...

Hmmm. I am astounded to learn that Until recently there were 35 Synagogues in Iran. This causes me to wonder at my easy willingness to believe there was only one.

Thirty five.

Until recently.

Two days ago, on April 15th Italy's AKI news service reported that seven have been burnt to the ground in what officials call, an attempt to "renew this ancient quarter."